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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …snip… Overall crop size was amazing, we pulled about 4 tons per acre = a long day, the clusters never seemed to end… I believe better canopy management could have been used. …snip… Hi Zinful: Actually, 4 t/a is a remarkably _low_ yield for Concord. Here in Ohio, as well as in PA & NY, most commercial Concord growers crop at ~ 7 – 10 t/a. Also, canopy management is very difficult & challenging with Concord due to its large leaves, short internode length, fruitful laterals & market demand for low prices. Prosit: Ed —
Ed, You’re kidding.. I had no idea concord could grow so much per acre? the berries were quite large so I could see that. I guess I am used to the lower crop size because I have been harvesting these grapes for the last three years and the vines are still quite young. I could tell canopy management would have been a pain, but due to the small amount of Concord in the vineyard it would have been possible. He doesn’t exactly have viticultural experts working his vineyards either. With a limited budget, you get what you get. thanks for the info, it will be interesting to see what they do next year, Zinful — Fine wine & a good woman, who needs anything more? Before you buy.
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Go to http://www.geocities.com/winemaking/request.html and scroll down to Concord Grape Wines. Click…. Jack Keller, The Winemaking Home Page, http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/1172/ Before you buy.
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Thanks Jack it’s apreciated. And we agree totaly that you can’t get as good as a wild fruit . Whats found in groery stores is a far cry from what Mother Nature ment for things to be. Curious&Cautious – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Go to http://www.geocities.com/winemaking/request.html and scroll down to Concord Grape Wines. Click…. Jack Keller, The Winemaking Home Page, http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/1172/ Before you buy.
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I am curious as to if other vinyards have tried a reflective pannel covering to aid in ripening where canopy management is a problem. I’ve seen it in ST-Catherens, Ont where they place an angled replective silver color color tarp or I gather any type of reflective plate to the base of the vines (ground) up on an angle to reflect the sun light upward in order to get even ripening Something like this (the verticle bar in the grape vines) | / Does any one know if this actualy works? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …snip… Overall crop size was amazing, we pulled about 4 tons per acre = a long day, the clusters never seemed to end… I believe better canopy management could have been used. …snip… Hi Zinful: Actually, 4 t/a is a remarkably _low_ yield for Concord. Here in Ohio, as well as in PA & NY, most commercial Concord growers crop at ~ 7 – 10 t/a. Also, canopy management is very difficult & challenging with Concord due to its large leaves, short internode length, fruitful laterals & market demand for low prices. Prosit: Ed — The Viticulture FAQ & Glossary – http://www.itsmysite.com/vitfaq "I like on the table, when we’re speaking, The light of a bottle of intelligent wine." -Pablo Neruda
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…snip… Overall crop size was amazing, we pulled about 4 tons per acre = a long day, the clusters never seemed to end… I believe better canopy management could have been used. …snip…
Hi Zinful: Actually, 4 t/a is a remarkably _low_ yield for Concord. Here in Ohio, as well as in PA & NY, most commercial Concord growers crop at ~ 7 – 10 t/a. Also, canopy management is very difficult & challenging with Concord due to its large leaves, short internode length, fruitful laterals & market demand for low prices. Prosit: Ed — The Viticulture FAQ & Glossary – http://www.itsmysite.com/vitfaq "I like on the table, when we’re speaking, The light of a bottle of intelligent wine." -Pablo Neruda
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Thanks Actualy yes your posting did help very much so and I thank you. Actualy no one in my region makes concorde grape wine. The grapes this year were very small perhaps 50-60% the size of last years. Ripening was also uneven.. However this is in Canada. Again. Many Thanks – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello. First question. In our region the grocey stores had concorde grape for only a week. Does any one know if the crop was realy that bad this year, or it is just too much demand? Second question. Does any one have a or several recipies for concorde grape wine? It would be greatly apreciated if you could please post them. yt Curious&Cautious. C&C, I guess it depends on where you are? I am in Iowa, I harvested Concord two days ago. Unfortunateley, I don’t know what the T/A and pH were, the owner does those tests after harvest instead of before (not my wise in my book). The Brix was 18 degrees, and the birds were dictating harvest rather than the grapes. Overall crop size was amazing, we pulled about 4 tons per acre = a long day, the clusters never seemed to end… I believe better canopy management could have been used. Wherever there were heavy concentration of clusters, there was also extra thick canopy coverage with little sunlight getting through and that made for a lot of uneven ripening. Overall I would say it was a great year for Concord in Indianola, Iowa. I think the Concord disappeared so fast in your store because of the popularity of the grape, and some in your area may have used them for making wine. We drank Concord wine while harvesting, as well as, other wines. I am not a big fan of sweet wines, but the Concord was terrific. Hope I helped, Zinful — Fine wine & a good woman, who needs anything more? Before you buy.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello. First question. In our region the grocey stores had concorde grape for only a week. Does any one know if the crop was realy that bad this year, or it is just too much demand? Second question. Does any one have a or several recipies for concorde grape wine? It would be greatly apreciated if you could please post them. yt Curious&Cautious.
C&C, I guess it depends on where you are? I am in Iowa, I harvested Concord two days ago. Unfortunateley, I don’t know what the T/A and pH were, the owner does those tests after harvest instead of before (not my wise in my book). The Brix was 18 degrees, and the birds were dictating harvest rather than the grapes. Overall crop size was amazing, we pulled about 4 tons per acre = a long day, the clusters never seemed to end… I believe better canopy management could have been used. Wherever there were heavy concentration of clusters, there was also extra thick canopy coverage with little sunlight getting through and that made for a lot of uneven ripening. Overall I would say it was a great year for Concord in Indianola, Iowa. I think the Concord disappeared so fast in your store because of the popularity of the grape, and some in your area may have used them for making wine. We drank Concord wine while harvesting, as well as, other wines. I am not a big fan of sweet wines, but the Concord was terrific. Hope I helped, Zinful — Fine wine & a good woman, who needs anything more? Before you buy.
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Hello. First question. In our region the grocey stores had concorde grape for only a week. Does any one know if the crop was realy that bad this year, or it is just too much demand? Second question. Does any one have a or several recipies for concorde grape wine? It would be greatly apreciated if you could please post them. yt Curious&Cautious.
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